Any other Dredg fans on here? Their new one comes out tomorrow, I don't even know if I want to get it and be profoundly disappointed. Their debut and "El Cielo" were brilliant, they are amazing live, but this new one is a concept album, and the reviews of it all describe it as awful. I hated "Catch Without Arms" because it was so commercial sounding. I dunno..do you continue to support a band you were dedicated to at the beginning of their career because of their brilliance then, or just make a clean break as they get worse?

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Alas, sometimes you've just gotta make that break. I haven't heard any of dredg's stuff, but I can speak from woeful experience. Let me list the bands I had to spurn:

Alice Donut - Live Nude Acid Park really sucked and I never went back.

The Butthole Surfers - I was iffy about Piouhgd, then Independant Worm Saloon, seemed a bit nyeh, but Electriclarryland confirmed what I thought I had been smelling.

Primus - Nothing decent from these guys after Pork Soda.

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - I really hate to have to admit this, but I didn't buy anything after Tender Prey. When Nick teamed up with Warren Ellis, he redeemed himself substantially.

Box the Jesuit - Guide Dogs for the Spiritually Impaired really sucked. Thank the heavens it was their final album.

The Beasts of Bourbon - Nothing decent after Black Milk.

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"I been thinkin' 'bout murder/suicide. A suicide pact between you and me. I'd be so honored if you'd take part, and we could blow our heads off, or just o.d."

Agreed on Butthole Surfers and Primus.

I did listen to the dredg album....it is really really awful and disappointing, so I think I have to split with them, it just sucks. Band break-ups are almost worse than significant other splits.

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henry's dream, let love in and murder ballads have some of his very best material on them... i don't see how those could be ignored. though warren ellis is my favorite bad seed... even over blixa or mick. he's so animated and gifted, and shreds on the violin like nobody else can.

as for the bourbons, i'll agree. but axeman's jazz, sour mash and black milk are more than enough for me

I don't think I gave ol' Nick enough of a chance after the Good Son. Even though I loved the Train Song and did buy the 12" of the Ship Song just to get that track, I was pretty disappointed with most of that album. I just haven't heard anything that even comes close to the earlier stuff, i.e. From Her to Eternity, First Born Is Dead, Your Funeral My Trial, Tender Prey. Maybe Nick matured and I did not...

The atmosphere of his gigs changed after the Tender Prey Tour, it became less frenetic... somehow less dangerous. I think that played a role as well.

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"I been thinkin' 'bout murder/suicide. A suicide pact between you and me. I'd be so honored if you'd take part, and we could blow our heads off, or just o.d."

it seems he's found the demon inside again. with his new, molestached incarnation, he spews sex and fire and brimstone, and is running as far as he can from the boatman's call. this new style of delivery also really favors the dark narrative and spoken word pieces much more... so stagger lee, the carny, papa won't leave you henry, up jumped the devil and the like would fit perfectly in. he's also been really loading his setlists with material from the first ten years of the bad seeds. from her to eternity, saint huck, tupelo, hard on for love, the mercy seat and other assorted junk were all the standards of this past tour.

I gotta admit, I haven't been to a Bad Seeds gig for well over ten years. It's good to see some of the classic material remains in the set-list and that the fire is back. The last couple times I saw 'em ol' Nick had taken to doing the early material in a much more demure, melancholy tone than with the old vitriol that fired him earlier. (I'll never forget seeing him launch onto the stage and rip into 'Deanna' as the set opener.)

I was gonna go see them at All Tomorrows Parties in Brisbane (to see The Saints as much as anything). But parental duties got in the way. Now Ed Kuepper has replaced Mick Harvey. Not that that's a bad thing. Ol' Ed's a great musician.

But I digress... this thread has somehow diverged from nadagrrl's predicament.

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"I been thinkin' 'bout murder/suicide. A suicide pact between you and me. I'd be so honored if you'd take part, and we could blow our heads off, or just o.d."